I hope this does not insult or enrage any of the military that have served and survived war but I want to bring the Liberal position into perspective for the liberals. We have to force them to look at their own positions because deep down they know they are wrong.

The left needs to judge the progress of the Iraq war by the number of body bags that arrive in the US every month.

Time after time I have called the left on this and as always the counter with 'Have you served?" "Do you know what it is like?" Having received this reply from actual Vets I decided to play ball within their rulebook...

We lost Vietnam. We lost big. Our military, supposedly the finest in the world failed to do it's job. You guys failed to defeat a third rate enemy. You lost and communism won. 47,378 of our soldiers died for nothing. Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon are war criminals for sponsoring an illegal war amongst a free and sovereign nation.

Our soldiers went into Vietnamese homes and raped and pillaged and generally terrorized the population not unlike Genghis Kahn. 15 years of utter violent futility...

How do I know this?

Well, if Iraq is a loss after three years and 3000 casualties (1000 casualties a year average), then Vietnam (3158 casualties a year average) was an even worse defeat.

Why are we losing? Well George Bush of course. He an idiot. He's dumb. He doesn't have a plan. We also do not think his plan (which he does not have) is working. 3000 dead soldiers told me so...

We need to leave Iraq now because we have lost 3000 soldiers. Don't tell me about the consequences, I don't want to know. We lost 3000 soldiers. The evacuation of Vietnam set off a virtual genocide but it does not matter. We lost 47,378 casualties. Yes Victory was in grasp in Vietnam but it did not matter. We lost 47,378 soldiers and there is no way those 47,378 would want their sacrifice to be vindicated because....we lost 47,378 people. Defeat is a must. We deserve it. We earned it.

Since we have set a precedent someone needs to grab a shovel and dig up George Washington. We may have gained our independence from the United Kingdom but we lost 4435 men. That's more than Iraq. Go to any pub in the UK and you my over hear "Sure they got their independence but they lost 4435 soldiers." Washington needs to be impeached. Where's John Conyers?

So what do we do now? Iraq is 80% secure. Do we surrender that 80 percent to the 20 percent that have been successful at hiding in mosques and behind women? Or do we fight on and finish the job? The left says we surrender because we have lost 3000 political talking points. the right says we've had three elections, we've formed a government, and the Iraqi army is taking the lead. Let's finish. It's what we do best when left alone to do what we do best.

-Bert.